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NASA desiste do Hubble

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Hubble servicing mission cut from budget

The White House has eliminated funding for a mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope from its 2006 budget request and directed NASA to focus solely on de-orbiting the popular spacecraft at the end of its life, according to government and industry sources.

NASA is debating when and how to announce the change of plans.

Sources told Space News that outgoing NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe likely will make the announcement February 7 during the public presentation of the U.S. space agency's 2006 budget request.

That budget request, according to government and industry sources, will not include any money for Hubble servicing but will include some money for a mission to attach a propulsion module to Hubble needed to safely de-orbit the spacecraft with a controlled re-entry into the Pacific Ocean.

Fonte: space.com
Apesar da "luta" que houve para manter o Hubble funcional, que motivou a criação de várias soluções de reparação que não necessitavam da presença humana, parece que a NASA vai mesmo desistir do único telescópio espacial que temos... é uma enorme perda para os astrónomos e um enorme recuo nas nossas capacidades para conhecer o Universo. :(

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Epá, mas o Sérgio ganhou os Ídolos!!!

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Ninguém pára o Benfica! Ninguém pára o Benfica! Ninguém pára o Benfica! Olé Oooohhh!! Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oooohhh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oooohhh!

Eu sou o Estado e o Estado sou eu.

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E o gajo é tao lerdo... E também não acho que cante por aí além...
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ShichiAkaAkuma Escreveu:Epá, mas o Sérgio ganhou os Ídolos!!!

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Aqui está um post mesmo de MERDA, com todas as letras. Oh meu imbecil, está a ser tratado um tema fulcral para o avanço da astronomia, para o domínio da astrofísica, e tu fazes um reply com um vencedor dum dos programas mais baixos para as massas que há na TV portuguesa? Tu cura-te ou procura aconselhamento psíquico. Enfim.

Pedro, se tiveres mais info sobre isso, vai postando. Eu entristece-me ver o Hubble ser terminado desta maneira, sendo este telescópio a melhor maneira de obter imagens sobre os primeiros anos no universo. Se houverem mais planetas extra-solares, como vamos descobri-los agora? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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A resposta do Shichi foi uma espécie de private joke por causa de uma discussão em que eu participei noutro fórum, sobre a missão a Titan, em que o poster inicial chegou à conclusão que o vencedor dos Ídolos era mais importante que a missão da Huygens (o tópico inteiro era surreal, toda a gente a mostrar os benefícios e ele a dizer que o programa espacial era inútil).

Quanto ao Hubble, não há mais novidades...

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Congress frets over Hubble

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Saving the Hubble Space telescope may be too expensive and dangerous, lawmakers said Wednesday after hearing from scientists who are split on the best way to repair or retire the cosmic camera.

The chairman of the House Science Committee said Congress needs to decide whether the 14-year old telescope, renowned for its inspiring snapshots, is worth the cost of repair -- estimated to be as much as $2 billion.

"We have to make hard choices about whether a Hubble mission is worth it now, when moving ahead is likely to have an adverse impact on other programs, including quite possibly other programs in astronomy," said Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-New York.

Hubble hovers about 375 miles above the Earth, circling the planet every 95 minutes, and has seen galaxies that are more than 12 billion light years away.

While NASA has sent several repair missions, experts say an additional one is needed because the batteries and gyroscopes probably will fail between mid-2007 and 2010.

But with the crash on February 1, 2003, of the space shuttle Columbia, a manned mission to repair Hubble is not worth the risk, said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-California.

"Some people just want to dive back in and use the shuttle as if these catastrophic accidents didn't happen. ... To the degree that we don't have to use the shuttle, we shouldn't use the shuttle," he said.

Experts also are divided about the best course of action.

NASA caused an uproar among scientists last year when the agency said that the safety of astronauts should not be put at risk in order to repair Hubble.

A National Academy of Sciences committee concluded in December that NASA should use astronauts, not a robot, for a repair attempt.

"The crew risk of a single shuttle mission to Hubble is very small," the chairman of that committee, Louis Lanzerotti, a professor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology, told lawmakers Wednesday.

But Dr. Paul Cooper, an executive at the company asked by NASA to create a Hubble-repairing robot, said such a trip could be of huge scientific benefit in future repairs of U.S. satellites, particularly for the Defense Department.

The goal of any repair mission to Hubble would be to install fresh batteries, gyroscopes, fine-guidance sensors, and two powerful new cameras that could make the telescope more productive than ever.

NASA has agreed that failing all else, it will use a robotic spacecraft to steer Hubble into the ocean by 2013.

Fonte: CNN
Cada vez o abandono do Hubble parece mais provável... apesar de os cientistas dizerem que a missão com o shuttle teria um baixo risco e que é importante salvar o Hubble, não me parece que o congresso esteja muito interessado nisso. Considerando o custo de construir um novo telescópio destes, provavelmente só se vão aperceber da asneira que fizeram quando o tiverem destruído e ele for necessário... :roll:

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De repente essa última frase não é tão "abonatória" dos Americanos? Só vêem o mal que fazem quando se "lixam" com ele... :?
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NASA budget kills Hubble

CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (AP) -- With the moon on its horizon, NASA sees an increase in the 2006 budget proposed by the White House on Monday, but the 2.5 percent hike is not enough to save the Hubble Space Telescope.

Only $75 million in the space agency's $16.45 billion budget would go toward Hubble's future involving a visiting robot, and all of that would be used to develop a mission for steering the orbiting observatory into the ocean at the end of its lifetime.

No money is in the budget to send either a robotic repairman or shuttle astronauts to Hubble to extend its lifetime, a decision that is sure to anger astronomers and members of Congress. Late last year, a National Academy of Sciences panel recommended one final visit to Hubble by astronauts.

The proposed budget does set aside $9.6 billion for science, aeronautics and exploration, and $6.7 billion for exploration capabilities, including such space operations as the space shuttle and international space station programs.

Just over a year ago, President Bush announced a new exploration vision for NASA geared around returning astronauts to the moon by 2020. Everything now revolves around that goal.

NASA's comptroller, Steve Isakowitz, said a robotic mission to install new parts on Hubble is proving too risky from a technological point of view, and a shuttle mission poses too many dangers in the wake of the 2003 Columbia accident.

Trying to launch a shuttle to Hubble by 2007, when critical telescope parts are expected to conk out, would present the same type of schedule pressures that led to the Columbia catastrophe, he said.

Instead, NASA is working on ways to remotely manage the 14-year-old Hubble in order to keep it going as long as possible, and is considering launching two already completed Hubble cameras on a separate yet-to-be-built spacecraft, Isakowitz said.

"We have been as eager as the Congress to try to save the Hubble, but at the end of the day, what we're trying to save is the science related to Hubble," he said.

A robotic repair mission has been estimated to cost as much as $1 billion to $2 billion, but that did not factor into the Bush administration's decision, Isakowitz said.

"At some point, you've got to question whether it's worth the cost," Isakowitz said. "But the decision we made is largely being driven by the risk considerations. It was not driven by the budget."

Fonte: CNN
Vai mesmo desaparecer... :(

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Talvez daqui a uns anos o Hubble pudesse detectar um cometa em rota de colisão com a Terra. Agora só vamos saber quando ele estiver mesmo em cima de nós :evil:
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peace^^ Escreveu:Talvez daqui a uns anos o Hubble pudesse detectar um cometa em rota de colisão com a Terra. Agora só vamos saber quando ele estiver mesmo em cima de nós :evil:
é o que é preciso!
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Calls for Hubble repair flight

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Astronomers and a U.S. senator renewed calls Wednesday for a repair mission to NASA's aging Hubble Space Telescope, even though the Bush administration's proposed budget would see it die in orbit.

Sen. Barbara Mikulski, a Maryland Democrat whose state is home to the Space Telescope Science Institute and NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, told the space agency that a failure to keep working toward a mission to fix Hubble could be against the law.

In a letter to Frederick Gregory, NASA's acting administrator, Mikulski noted that Congress appropriated $291 million for fiscal 2005 for a Hubble servicing mission.

"I expect NASA to carry out Congress' intent and spend the entire amount appropriated this year so there will be no interruption in the planning, preparation and engineering work that will be necessary for a servicing mission to Hubble," she wrote.

The Bush administration's proposed 2006 budget requested only $93 million for the Hubble program, with $75 million of that set aside to bring the orbiting observatory safely to Earth.

The Hubble is overdue for repairs and upgrading, and in the past has been fixed by shuttle astronauts. But the shuttle fleet has been grounded since the Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003 and former NASA chief Sean O'Keefe said repeatedly he would not risk lives to fix the telescope.

A professional organization of U.S. astronomers added its voice Wednesday to those taking issue with NASA's decision.

"The Hubble Space Telescope has been the crown jewel in NASA's science programs for over a decade," the American Astronomical Society said in a statement.

The fact that the repair mission had already been planned and new scientific instruments developed for Hubble "makes this decision particularly unfortunate and difficult to accept," the group said.

The big winners in NASA's proposed budget are the shuttle program -- slated to return to flight in May -- along with the International Space Station and a plan to develop a vehicle to replace the shuttle.

This is in line with President Bush's plan to return Americans to the moon and eventually send them to Mars.

Even as Hubble's fate was debated, scientists using data gathered by the old craft reported that they had discovered an upper weight limit for stars.

Previously, astronomers had theorized that the heaviest stars might range up to 1,000 times the mass of our sun. But the latest research indicates that stars cannot get any larger than about 150 solar masses.

To get this result, scientists studied Hubble data from the Arches star cluster, about 25,000 light-years from Earth in the hub of the Milky Way.

Fonte: CNN
Bem, pode parecer uma causa perdida devido à teimosia da NASA e do Bush, mas ainda há quem acredite que é possível salvar o telescópio da destruição. Pode ser que consigam meter algum juízo na cabeça de quem toma as decisões. :)

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é realmente uma pena perder um aparelho de tanta utilidade para humanidade
se disserem ao bush que o gajo pode instalar um laser no telescopio a apontar para a terra e dar cabo de um cidade inteira ele assim ja gastava o dinheiro que fosse necessario com ele enfim :cry: :cry:

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